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[jasonthelamb]

So.... no 3peat for Lakers, Miami dynasty?


LETS TALK.

[GONJNETS]

Originally Posted by jasonthelamb

So.... no 3peat for Lakers, Miami dynasty?


LETS TALK.

No this basically (in my mind) makes the three peat much more likely. The heat have 3 players on the roster that take up a shitload of cap and the rest of the players will be Brian scalabrine caliber....the Lakers take the title in this upcoming season (God i hate myself for saying that)

[MikeIsGod]

am i the only one that is only slight bit worried about Orlando. I know the lakers are still the team to beat but the Magic just keep getting better.

And you do know Veteran players are going to take a huge pay cut to play with these guys in Miami.

[Insider_00]

For some a championship is worth the pay cut.

[jasonthelamb]

Im just gonna use one quote.

"Jordan didn't join the pistons, he made himself better and beat the pistons"

[LegendKiller]

The Heat are clearly the team to beat in the NBA now. The Lakers will still finish in the top 2 of the Western Conference, but I see the Heat winning 2 out of the next 3 years. Basketball only requires 1 great player on a team with another very good player and a decent supporting cast. The Heat have 3 great players and will get a decent supporting cast. If they had Kobe, LeBron, and Gilbert Arenas on the same team, they'd be screwed. But Wade is a selfless player that can score anytime he wants and get everyone around him involved. I don't know Bosh's game as well, but he played great in the Olympic games and I'm sure he'll mesh well in Miami.

The only way to beat the Heat will be to put up 110+ points, because there will be no stopping their offense, especially if they get another shooter. They already landed Mike Miller - Ray Allen would've been perfect for them (though also unaffordable). LBJ/Wade can drive and either draw a foul 85% of the time or dish it out for a 3 to the wide open guy whose defender played help defense.

[GONJNETS]

Originally Posted by LegendKiller

The Heat are clearly the team to beat in the NBA now. The Lakers will still finish in the top 2 of the Western Conference, but I see the Heat winning 2 out of the next 3 years. Basketball only requires 1 great player on a team with another very good player and a decent supporting cast. The Heat have 3 great players and will get a decent supporting cast. If they had Kobe, LeBron, and Gilbert Arenas on the same team, they'd be screwed. But Wade is a selfless player that can score anytime he wants and get everyone around him involved. I don't know Bosh's game as well, but he played great in the Olympic games and I'm sure he'll mesh well in Miami.

The only way to beat the Heat will be to put up 110+ points, because there will be no stopping their offense, especially if they get another shooter. They already landed Mike Miller - Ray Allen would've been perfect for them (though also unaffordable). LBJ/Wade can drive and either draw a foul 85% of the time or dish it out for a 3 to the wide open guy whose defender played help defense.

LOL at the leauge minimum, this bench is going to suck ass. My main question is, who runs the ball, must of the great off ball players can shoot a three, and if you're an NBA fan then you know that LeBron and Wade arent exactly 3-point sharp shooters.

[Insider_00]

Mike Miller will probably shoot the three.

[MikeIsGod]

Originally Posted by GONJNETS

LOL at the leauge minimum, this bench is going to suck ass. My main question is, who runs the ball, must of the great off ball players can shoot a three, and if you're an NBA fan then you know that LeBron and Wade arent exactly 3-point sharp shooters.

thats why Miller will be brought in. Theres guys like Korver you can go for or even quentin richardson can come back. Three's are not the issue depth is.

[dinosaur]

i still think he shoulda stayind in CLE

orif he wanted the money go to NY

[GONJNETS]

Originally Posted by MikeIsGod

thats why Miller will be brought in. Theres guys like Korver you can go for or even quentin richardson can come back. Three's are not the issue depth is.

Im pretty sure i mentioned the depth situation, Orlando and Boston are still better TEAMs in the east.

[Crash]

It worked out for the C's. But then again, until Kobe did it two seasons ago, there were always questions of would he be able to do it without Shaq. I see the same coming for LeBron at the end of this contract.

[taha19]

Originally Posted by GONJNETS

LOL at the leauge minimum, this bench is going to suck ass. My main question is, who runs the ball, must of the great off ball players can shoot a three, and if you're an NBA fan then you know that LeBron and Wade arent exactly 3-point sharp shooters.

and neither is bosh for that matter...



the heat are going to suck because they have NO bench players

[Rich]

Originally Posted by taha19

and neither is bosh for that matter...



the heat are going to suck because they have NO bench players

Very true, I mean the Celtic's bench did work on Lakers and Cavs during the playoffs. I bet the Heat will be tired by 2/3 of the season.

[Ty Cobb]

Udonis Haslem re-signs with the Heat. A selfless player who is going to do all the little things to make this team successful.

[LegendKiller]

Originally Posted by taha19

and neither is bosh for that matter...



the heat are going to suck because they have NO bench players

Uh.. define suck?

They're going to win 55+ games, if not 65+ games. Let's take a quick look at the Eastern Conference...

Raptors - Lost Bosh, not good at all.
Knicks - Lost Lee, but got Stoudemire.. Still not good.
Nets - Suck.
Cavs - Lost LBJ, have nothing. Suck.
76ers - Eh, suck.
Wizards - Suck.
Pacers - Suck.
Pistons - Suck.

So there's a few other teams, but their main competition is Boston (getting old, IDK if they have it anymore), the Magic (going to regress.. Vince is older and clearly worse), the Bulls, and...... that's it.

Some of you are forgetting that basketball is a flawed sport. You need one very good player to be a playoff team, and two very good players to be a championship contender. Nearly every player in the NBA is adequate enough to fill a bench. "Supporting cast" guys can be put together pretty easily. A guy like Eddie House can be had for little, etc, etc. Sure you won't get that James Posey that the 07 C's had, but we also need to mention that the Heat have THREE very good players on the team already. LBJ, Wade, and Bosh have more talent than Ray, Pierce, and KG did in '07. So if they can put together a similar bench, they're in line for a championship.

[dinosaur]

Originally Posted by LegendKiller

Uh.. define suck?

They're going to win 55+ games, if not 65+ games. Let's take a quick look at the Eastern Conference...

Raptors - Lost Bosh, not good at all.
Knicks - Lost Lee, but got Stoudemire.. Still not good.
Nets - Suck.
Cavs - Lost LBJ, have nothing. Suck.
76ers - Eh, suck.
Wizards - Suck.
Pacers - Suck.
Pistons - Suck.

So there's a few other teams, but their main competition is Boston (getting old, IDK if they have it anymore), the Magic (going to regress.. Vince is older and clearly worse), the Bulls, and...... that's it.

Some of you are forgetting that basketball is a flawed sport. You need one very good player to be a playoff team, and two very good players to be a championship contender. Nearly every player in the NBA is adequate enough to fill a bench. "Supporting cast" guys can be put together pretty easily. A guy like Eddie House can be had for little, etc, etc. Sure you won't get that James Posey that the 07 C's had, but we also need to mention that the Heat have THREE very good players on the team already. LBJ, Wade, and Bosh have more talent than Ray, Pierce, and KG did in '07. So if they can put together a similar bench, they're in line for a championship.

Interesting stat I saw on Mike and Mike a couple days ago-

Since 1980, there have been 8 different Championship winners in the NBA. In MLB, we only have to go back to 2001 to get 8 different winners, in NFL we only have to go back to 2000 to get 8 different winners.

NBA is flawed.

[GONJNETS]

Originally Posted by LegendKiller

Uh.. define suck?

They're going to win 55+ games, if not 65+ games. Let's take a quick look at the Eastern Conference...

Raptors - Lost Bosh, not good at all.
Knicks - Lost Lee, but got Stoudemire.. Still not good.
Nets - Suck.
Cavs - Lost LBJ, have nothing. Suck.
76ers - Eh, suck.
Wizards - Suck.
Pacers - Suck.
Pistons - Suck.

So there's a few other teams, but their main competition is Boston (getting old, IDK if they have it anymore), the Magic (going to regress.. Vince is older and clearly worse), the Bulls, and...... that's it.

Some of you are forgetting that basketball is a flawed sport. You need one very good player to be a playoff team, and two very good players to be a championship contender. Nearly every player in the NBA is adequate enough to fill a bench. "Supporting cast" guys can be put together pretty easily. A guy like Eddie House can be had for little, etc, etc. Sure you won't get that James Posey that the 07 C's had, but we also need to mention that the Heat have THREE very good players on the team already. LBJ, Wade, and Bosh have more talent than Ray, Pierce, and KG did in '07. So if they can put together a similar bench, they're in line for a championship.

The difference between miami's big three and bostons big three is that there was only one ball dominant player on the celtics at the time they won the championship (Paul Pierce). Garnett could shoot the mid range and Ray Allen could shoot the three like no other. Now you have 3 guys in miami, 2 of them are ball dominant players (Lebron, Wade) and the other one is a softer version of KG in 2007. That being said Miami will compete and place second in the east behind the orlando magic...Dwight howard can run over bosh and big Z (and he has) and spreading the floor will be easy for this team (Rashard Lewis, Jameer Nelson, Vince Carter, Mickale Pietrus, Jason Williams and Ryan Anderson) seeing as how they can all shoot the three (a skill which will not diminish as quickly as a player that drives and bangs down low, LeBron, Wade) All of the Magic players I mentioned shoot the three ball at at least .367%. The Orlando Magic play with Balance and can do everything well. And still, the lakers are the best team in the NBA, just look at how they would match up vs the heat
Kobe vs D-Wade (Kobe)
Chalmers vs Fisher (Fisher)
LeBron vs Artest (LeBron)
Bosh vs Gasol (Tie, if gasol was the featured man on this laker team it would go to him)
Big Z vs Andrew Bynum (Bynum has grown every year and Big Z is on the decline, gotta give it to bynum)
LA bench vs LOL Heat Bench ( LA hands down, odom, brown, blake, are much better than, haslem and ummmmmmmm mike miller?)

[LegendKiller]

Well if "sucking" is being the third best team in the league, you've got some pretty high standards. :P

I think they're going to mesh together better than most people think. LeBron and Wade have reputations of being ball hogs, but that's mostly (if not entirely) because they've had a horrible team around them at all times. One thing we could do is look to the Olympics, when they had good players around them. They shared the ball there when they had other players that could help.

As for the Magic match up, I don't see how they'll beat the Heat. Dwight Howard has 0 offensive moves. He's not a team's main scorer. Vince Carter takes more bad shots than good shots, and plays pretty crumby defense. Their wild card would be Rashard Lewis, who a ton of teams have trouble matching up against. The Celtics would be stuck with having to put someone like Pierce on him (mis-match with height), Big Baby (huge mis-match), or KG (which isn't ideal). But one person who can definitely guard him in LeBron, so consider Lewis pretty much useless with LeBron on him. The only real threat against the Heat would be Jameer Nelson, but he'd have to compete with Wade & LeBron offensively. So I really don't see it. Howard has a knack for getting into foul trouble against teams that drive to the basket a lot, which is definitely going to be in LeBron and Wade's agena.

Lakers/Heat would be a good matchup. I ultimately think the Heat would win because I question 2 things: 1) Bynum's health down the stretch, 2) Fisher's chances of repeating the improbable, ridiculous shots he hit in the 2010 Finals.

[jopo37]

The C's are great the last few years with 3 minor league versions of the Heat 3 IMO. If the Heat get role players that are decent how do u stop them. If you watched the Olympics you would see how great these 3 worked together, especially if Lebron can keep exponentially improving on his 3's....